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Delta flies A-330 non stop over 18 hours....!!

Discussion in 'Latest Airline News' started by Richard Wyeroski, Jun 11, 2013.

  1. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Silver Member IV

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  5. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Silver Member IV

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    yes ....it appears my subconscious mind believes this is dangerous ?

    The FAA really does not care....pretty soon they will be down to single engine jets flying 330 ETOPS

    OMG!
     
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    Well ain't that a fine how do you do ? :p
    That's more fuel than I got kidneys!
    All kidding aside, does a flight like that require two crews ?
     
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    Yes, that would require possibly as many as 5 pilots to keep everyone "legal". Maybe someone can tell us about FAR Duty and Flight Time Limits for International flights. I recently was on a Hong Kong-ORD United flight and we only had 4 pilots for the 15 hour flight.

    My big question would be "How BIG are the lavatory/toilet holding tanks"? :eek:
     
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    On a flight like that, once over the Pacific Ocean, how far would the aircraft be from a suitable airport should they lose an engine at say midway point?
     
  9. Richard Wyeroski

    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Silver Member IV

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    Basically the aircraft will have to fly over four hours plus to a suitable landing airport at mid Pacific. Other factors will be weather and the wind direction, that could increase flying time

    It will not be to comfortable for the passengers! Besides the obvious risks, the lose of altitude and reduction in speed. The passengers would have to endure a relatively cold cabin (35 degrees F)

    I would not be very comfortable knowing the aircraft is on one engine with hours to fly to a safe landing.

    Add in poor maintenance and the bogus aircraft parts problem and I would be very....concerned for my safety!
     
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    DL 9771 mtm ferry. Four cockpit, 0 pax. 18:34 off/on
     
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    I had trouble enough lasting 11.5 hours Los Angeles to London. Tack on another seven hours, no thank you. For a trip that long, I had rather make a connection and be off the plane for a while.
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Silver Member IV

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    This is a long flight for a 330! How safe is this.....imagine thousands of twin jets of all sizes and age flying these routes?


    We sure are playing games.....like I said....it's a game....governments and airlines keep their fingers crossed and hope they don't crash too many, or it's back the Quad jet operations for these type of flights.

    There will be some airlines that will provided Quad jet service......
     
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    Richard, this was a maintenance ferry flight, not scheduled service. Cockpit crew only, no cabin crew or passengers.
     
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    Yes that is true. However, the airline did this flight, approved by the FAA as a test. It was a successful flight with no problems. I believe the airline will file for ETOPS approval to make this a scheduled in the future.

    I believe 330-350 ETOPS is not safe

    Thanks
     
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    Richard Wyeroski Hangar Silver Member IV

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    BTW.....before someone tells me that what's the big deal ETOPS is safe and there is no risk. I say please read this thread below with an open mind about info the Fed's and the airlines want no one to knows about!

    Then get on board a twin jet flying over the North Pole or the Pacific routes and relax! I suggest get drunk and bring a blanket ......and sit back and enjoy your flight

    Lose an engine and it will be fun time!

    The cabin will be in the 30 degree range
    The aircraft will drift down to about 20,000 feet
    The aircraft will slow to about Mach .65 from Mach 85
    The situation is an immediate emergency...notifying all ships at sea in the event of a problem
    The flight to a suitable landing airport could be 4-5 hours of nail biting hoping you will make it okay!

    Better yet inform yourself and read this thread below all the way through. Your Government and the Airlines has used the risk management profile and found it an acceptable risk for the sake of lower costs and profit!

    Good luck

    PS The cheap "Third World Country" maintenance and bogus parts problems just add to the risk!!!!!

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      WHY FOUR ENGINES ARE BETTER THAN TWO............

      Richard Wyeroski, Dec 19, 2012

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